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Since March 7, I wrote an entry in favor of military intervention in Libya, 19 days have passed. 19 days in which I have been watching the news on television, radio, press, iu forum, blog i love iu, counter-media, multi-opinion articles and blogs that talked about the issue and I answered some and debated ... Now I'd like

synthesize all this debate in an entry.

thing that makes me whole grace (not mourn me laugh) is that a significant portion of the left against the intervention, when this has occurred, we have begun to write against it, to put photos of not war, to put news of the dead left by the intervention ...

Interestingly

said that the media manipulated and that there had to be done for the dead who had left Gaddafi. But then put the same media news of the dead who had left the intervention. That is, for what interested me, handled, and what not, no.
By the way, is the 1 st when I see people on the left cross to Al Jazeera handler when it has always been a clear example of different information to traditional media.
I would have liked people to be shocked both the intervention had been shocked too much with the dead that left Gaddafi, who before surgery had put photos criticizing the Qaddafi repression. No, it seems that only care about the cause of dead Westerners. When the other does not matter cause they do not deserve photos or blog entries, or indignation.


more arguments, said that the situation in Libya could not compare to that of Egypt or Tunisia, for Libya is a country much richer, and they say he has not left the village, but the tribes, and they are going through weapons ... Question
I'm doing. If there had been no intervention, do you also have said that Libya was different from Egypt and Tunisia? I doubt it greatly. Maybe I would have said the most radical that supports Gaddafi (perhaps 10-20% of people on the left against the intervention), but those who were against Gaddafi would have regretted it all and would have said: what a pity that was not gone as Egitpo Tunisia.

What happened was that the army was broken, so besieged Gaddafi. In Egypt and Tunisia, the army came a time when he refused to shoot, and why the revolution triumphed.

If anyone is interested, I leave here very illustrative several blogs that I liked a lot:

http://www.kaosenlared.net/noticia/la-izquierda-y-libia-1

This Rolando Astarita, Argentine Marxist, discusses why people are against Gaddafi leftist and pro-intervention, and why there are people for and against intervention Gaddafi is also left-wing. For him the difference lies in the importance of either the national question, or democracy and human rights.

In this one, answers to some arguments and criticisms he has received

http://www.kaosenlared.net/noticia/criticos-nacionales-y-libia


And this one compares the situation to the genocide in Rwanda: http://

www.kaosenlared.net / news / Libyan-intervention-wheel-story

also leave an interview with Gabriele Del Grande, an Italian journalist, responding to criticism from the left on the rebellion is led by imperialism and talk on the situation in Libya, as he is there:

http://www.kaosenlared.net/noticia/gabriele-grande-revoluciones-mundo-arabe-trascienden-superan-categoria

In this one, Peter L. Narrow compares the situation with Franco's Spain:

http://www.kaosenlared.net/noticia/libia-en-el-subconsciente

And finally I leave this to Manuel Marquez talks about the support of the left authoritarian regimes simply because they are anti-imperialists:

http://www.kaosenlared.net/noticia/izquierda-viejuna-autoritaria

I must say I was pleasantly surprised on the Web Kaos
As I said, I been reading the counter-media. The Republic, La Haine, and Insurgent never had particularly liked, and therefore I have not disappointed too much with them. Yes Rebellion and more particularly to Third Information. Rebellion never liked too much about the format, do not put pictures and is hard to read.
But the truth is that I am surprised that Third and Rebellion are positioned so clearly against the rebels. Instead
Kaos on the net, that I never particularly liked the hype given to the nationalist left and ferocious criticism CCOO, PCE, and IU, I was pleasantly surprised, as though you have added items against intervention, has also made room for opinion articles favorable to the intervention of leftists, and that is welcome. It has risen a lot in my perception.


Another argument given is that why not attack other countries. Well, other countries, the revolution has not had much chance of winning as in Libya. Libya came to control all cities except Tripoli and Sirte. Has it been that in Yemen, Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Syria, Algeria or Jordan? For the time being. So for the moment are not comparable situations. First you have to stop to see if these countries reach the status of Egypt or Tunisia and the revolution triumphed, or otherwise reach the state of Libya and you have to intervene. But currently there are none of those 2 states.


So I favored the intervention to help the people in their release. There are many who say it is to obtain natural resources. However, it seems to me difficult without land occupation.
also say that everything was ready, however it was at the last moment when Benghazi was surrounded and had to convince the Russians and Chinese.

I give a vote of confidence to the international community. I hope that with your help the rebels are able to reverse the situation and decide on its future.

Others said they had to exhaust all diplomatic and peaceful way. I agree, but the 1 that is not to negotiate is Gaddafi. Declared cease-fires to break right away, branded as rebels Al Qaeda insurgents and foreign mercenaries hired because of defections from his army.
With someone who wants to stay in power and yield it to his son, no dialogue is possible.

is "conversation with Mubarak in Egypt or Ben Ali in Tunis. Or the presidents of Yemen and Syria. Promising many reforms, like Mohammed, but people find it inadequate and continue to protest. Why should they settle for reforms in Libya and not in other countries? We are talking about the revolutions in Egypt and Tunisia are incomplete, and that they have succeeded. Imagine if he had come to them through dialogue and not by popular pressure. He would have gotten much less.


also compare the situation in Iraq or Afghanistan. I'm not going to the UN, which is undemocratic since there is a right of veto to prevent lifting the embargo on Cuba, or the Arab League, plagued by authoritarian regimes.
Libya is different from Iraq because the people have been coming up to check all the cities at least 2, and Iraq did not happen, and is framed in a revolutionary process in the region.
Nor is Afghanistan because there is no land occupation or go looking for Bin Laden in, and the rebels have called no-fly zone.

It's like in Spain. Would we have refused to Franco attacked the allies after WWII because it would have brought more problems and would have killed many people, and would have said that the solution would be reached through dialogue with Franco and the English would have to decide their own future? Not so. We asked for help, as the Libyans are now asking. And once the international community help, you can not refuse.